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Finding and Using the Move Relearner in Pokémon Platinum
Pastoria City serves as a central hub for mid-game progression in the Sinnoh region, but its most functional resident isn't the Gym Leader Wake—it is the Move Relearner. This NPC, often referred to as the Move Reminder, provides a critical service for any trainer looking to optimize their team's moveset by allowing Pokémon to "relearn" any move they naturally learn via leveling up, including moves they may have skipped or forgotten.
Understanding the specific mechanics of the Move Relearner in the Platinum version is essential because the game's difficulty curve spikes significantly around the seventh gym and the Elite Four. Whether you accidentally canceled a move learning prompt or evolved a Pokémon using a stone before it finished its level-up pool, the Move Relearner is the only way to correct these tactical errors.
The exact location of the Move Relearner in Pastoria City
In Pokémon Platinum, the Move Relearner lives in a small, unassuming house located in the northeast section of Pastoria City. To reach him, start at the Pastoria City Pokémon Center and head south toward the Poké Mart. From the front of the Poké Mart, walk toward the east. You will see a house situated right next to the water of the Great Marsh inlet.
Inside this house, you will find an NPC wearing overalls standing in front of a bookshelf. This is the man who can manipulate your Pokémon's memory. Unlike the Move Tutors found on Route 212 or in Snowpoint City, this NPC does not require Shards (Red, Blue, Yellow, or Green). Instead, his services are strictly paid for using a rare item known as the Heart Scale.
Access requirements and timing
You cannot utilize the Move Relearner immediately upon arriving in Pastoria City if you are following the standard story progression. Access to Pastoria City is generally granted after obtaining the Relic Badge from Fantina in Hearthome City. Once you can move past the Psyduck blockade on Route 210 and proceed through the Valor Lakefront, Pastoria City becomes your primary destination. As long as you have the required Heart Scale in your inventory, the Relearner is available 24/7.
How the Move Relearning mechanism works
The Move Relearner's logic is based on the internal level-up data for a specific Pokémon species. When you hand over a Heart Scale and select a Pokémon from your party, the game generates a list of every move that specific species is programmed to learn from Level 1 up to its current level.
There are several nuances to this system that are often overlooked by casual players:
- Level 1 Moves: Many fully evolved Pokémon, such as Gallade, Togekiss, or Arcanine, have powerful moves listed as "Level 1" in their data. Since these Pokémon are often obtained via Evolution Stones, they may never have been at "Level 1" in their evolved state. The Move Relearner is the only method to teach a Togekiss the move Aura Sphere or an Arcanine the move Thunder Fang if they evolved early.
- Skipped Moves: If a Pokémon was kept in the Day Care and leveled up past a point where it would have learned a new move, the move is effectively "skipped." The Move Relearner can recover these moves instantly.
- Egg Moves Exclusion: It is important to note that in the original Pokémon Platinum (Generation 4), the Move Relearner cannot teach moves that were passed down via breeding (Egg Moves) if the Pokémon has forgotten them. This is a limitation of the DS era hardware and software that was only rectified in later generations. If your Lucario forgets High Jump Kick (an Egg Move), it is gone forever in this version.
- No TM or Tutor Moves: The Relearner only recognizes the natural level-up pool. Moves taught via Technical Machines (TMs), Hidden Machines (HMs), or Shard Tutors cannot be recovered here if they are overwritten.
Farming Heart Scales: The essential currency
The biggest hurdle in utilizing the Move Relearner frequently is the scarcity of Heart Scales. In Pokémon Platinum, there are three primary methods to obtain them, ranging from one-time pickups to infinite farming loops.
The Sinnoh Underground (Most Reliable)
The most effective way to stockpile Heart Scales is by using the Explorer Kit to go into the Sinnoh Underground. While many players focus on finding Fossils or Evolutionary Stones, Heart Scales are a common drop in the mining mini-game.
When mining, look for small, thin objects in the wall. Heart Scales take up a 2x2 grid but are extremely thin, often resembling a small curved sliver. Because they occupy so little space, they are easy to miss if you are aggressively using the hammer. Using the pickaxe to reveal the edges of objects is the recommended strategy for identifying them. A dedicated hour of mining can typically yield 3 to 5 Heart Scales, which is more than enough for a standard playthrough team.
Wild Luvdisc Farming (The Infinite Loop)
If you prefer traditional gameplay over the mining mini-game, you can farm Heart Scales from wild Luvdisc. This method requires the Super Rod, which is obtained in the post-game area (Fight Area), making this strategy more relevant for competitive team building rather than the main story.
Luvdisc can be found by fishing in the waters of Route 224 and the Pokémon League. There is a 50% chance that a wild Luvdisc will be holding a Heart Scale. To optimize this, follow this professional farming setup:
- The Lead Pokémon: Place a Pokémon with the ability Compound Eyes (like Butterfree) in the first slot of your party. Even if it is fainted, this ability increases the chance of wild Pokémon holding items from 50% to 60%.
- The Thief: Place a Pokémon with the ability Frisk (like Banette or Stantler) in the second slot, and teach it the move Thief or Covet.
- The Process: When you encounter a Luvdisc, Frisk will immediately alert you if it is holding a Heart Scale. Use Thief to steal the item, flee from the battle, and then remove the Heart Scale from your Pokémon's held item slot.
Fixed Map Locations
There are several Heart Scales hidden across the Sinnoh map as invisible items. Using the Dowsing Machine (Pokétch App) is necessary to pinpoint these. Notable locations include:
- Route 212: In the muddy area south of Hearthome City.
- Route 214: Hidden in a patch of grass.
- Route 213: Hidden on one of the small islands in the water near the Hotel Grand Lake.
- Victory Road: Several are scattered throughout the caves in the final trek before the Elite Four.
Strategic Importance for Platinum Team Building
Why go through the trouble of finding the Relearner and farming scales? In Platinum, move pools were redesigned to be more diverse than in Diamond and Pearl, but many of the best moves are buried in the Level 1 category or learned very late.
The Stone Evolution Dilemma
In Generation 4, many Pokémon that evolve via stones cease to learn new moves entirely after evolution. For example, if you evolve your Growlithe into Arcanine at Level 1, Arcanine will not learn Extreme Speed until Level 39. However, it also gains access to a variety of "Fang" moves (Fire Fang, Thunder Fang, etc.) that are listed as Level 1 moves. If you evolve your Growlithe at Level 50 to get Flare Blitz, you will have missed all those utility moves. The Move Relearner bridges this gap, allowing you to have the late-game power of Flare Blitz and the early-game utility of the Fangs simultaneously.
Correcting Garchomp and Lucario
Two of the most popular Pokémon in the Sinnoh region, Garchomp and Lucario, benefit immensely from the Pastoria NPC. Garchomp, for instance, learns Fire Fang at Level 1. This is a crucial coverage move to handle Ice-type threats and Steel-types like Skarmory. Without the Move Relearner, a Level 50 Garchomp caught as a Gabite or Gible will never have access to this move.
Similarly, Lucario learns Extreme Speed and the elemental punches through various means, but its most basic utility moves like Metal Claw or Bone Rush might be needed for specific gym battles if they were deleted to make room for TMs earlier in the journey.
Comparing the Relearner to Other Tutors
It is common for players to confuse the Move Relearner with other NPCs in Platinum who also teach moves. It is vital to distinguish them to avoid wasting resources.
- The Move Deleter: Located in Canalave City. He is the only NPC who can remove HM moves (like Cut, Surf, or Rock Climb) from your Pokémon. You will often need to visit him before the Move Relearner if your Pokémon's moveset is full of HMs that you want to replace with natural level-up moves.
- The Shard Tutors: There are three of them in Platinum (Route 212, Snowpoint City, and the Survival Area). They teach moves that are not in the Pokémon's level-up pool (like Fire Punch for a Jolteon). They require Red, Blue, Yellow, or Green Shards.
- The Ultimate Move Tutor: Located on Route 228, he teaches the most powerful moves of each type (like Blast Burn or Hydro Cannon) only to fully evolved starter Pokémon with high friendship.
Troubleshooting: Why a move isn't appearing
Occasionally, you may visit the Move Relearner and find that the move you want isn't on the list. There are three common reasons for this:
- Current Level: The Pokémon must be at or above the level required to learn the move. You cannot "pre-learn" a move. If your Luxray learns Thunderbolt at Level 42, but yours is Level 40, the move will not appear in the Relearner's menu.
- Evolution Stage: The Relearner only sees the moves of the current evolution. If you have a Raichu, the Relearner will only show moves that Raichu learns. It will not show moves that only Pikachu learns (like Nasty Plot). You must ensure the Pokémon learned those moves before evolving, as the Relearner cannot reach back into the move pool of a previous evolution stage.
- TM/HM Confusion: As mentioned, if the move was a TM (like Psychic or Ice Beam), it will never appear in the Relearner's list, regardless of whether the Pokémon can learn it naturally later.
Final Recommendations for Heart Scale Management
Since Heart Scales are finite in the early to mid-game, prioritize using them on Pokémon that have reached their final evolution. Using a Heart Scale on a Staravia to get Wing Attack is often a waste, as it will naturally learn better moves as a Staraptor. However, using a Heart Scale on a newly evolved Gallade to teach it Night Slash or Leaf Blade is an excellent investment that significantly changes the Pokémon's viability in the mid-game.
Keep a stash of at least two Heart Scales in your bag at all times. You never know when you might catch a high-level wild Pokémon with a terrible moveset that needs immediate fixing before the next major battle. By utilizing the mining in the Underground during your travel between Eterna and Hearthome, you can easily secure enough scales to last the entire journey without ever having to resort to the more tedious Luvdisc farming method.
The Move Relearner in Pastoria City is more than just a convenience; it is a fundamental part of the Sinnoh experience. By mastering the location and the economy of Heart Scales, you ensure that your team is always performing at its maximum theoretical potential, capable of overcoming even the harshest challenges the Sinnoh Elite Four can throw your way.
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